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[petronia]

Peace Maker manga was in the shop!

...The rest of Prince of Tennis was not. >_>

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Peace Maker manga was in the shop!

...The rest of Prince of Tennis was not. >_> <_< As flies to wanton boys are we to the manga gods. To hell with it, though, I'm reading the fic come fire or high spoiler.

That is, as soon as I am able to mark a pause in my ear-steaming fangirl mania over Peace Maker. Dear, dear saints alive. It's just as well I didn't bother to set up phone post this afternoon, or you'd all be afflicted with my hyperventilations in real time, real sound. Or maybe all you'd hear is choking noises, as I run out of superlatives and am reduced to flapping.

I suspect I should get my act together and make some detailed fannish posts on this that and the other (I kind of regret not blogging all my crackpot impressions as I wended my way through the GB anime, y'see; so many st00pid Vagrant Story / Kenshin animation team jokes not saved for posterity), but aaaaarrrrgggghhhh. *flaps* I refuse to believe it's Kurono Nanae's first manga, period: no acolyte is this well-versed in the nittou ryu of Angst and Crack. *deep breathes* Right. Will go watch anime now.

She says the pigs are historical, so there.

Oh, P.S., other manga I got are Saiyuki Reload (so I can make sure I understand XD) and this other pwetty thing called Youko-Den. As in fox spirit. However, it is more precisely 妖狐伝義経千本桜。 Ohohohohohohoho~ *ojousama laughter trailing off into distance*

P.P.S. Is anyone I know currently reading a <i>proper</i> shounen manga that is universally acknowledged NOT to have teh ghei, either textually or subtextually? I need to recalibrate my brain. Thank you.

Comments

[luckykitty.livejournal.com]

the pigs are historical!!

i am so envious! you got the manga! and you can read it without needing to rely on the translation skillz of others! i fear writing your ficlet now as you will know far more about the canon than me *laughs*. (i downloaded the song but did not get a chance to write, as work exploded, and then we went out this evening...)

*would happily hear your fangirlish explosion audio blog about PM!*

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Send me email and I will do you crappy on-the-fly translations from the Chinese. I mean it. *maniacal gleaming glasses* Write whenever you like tho', I won't rush you. ^_^

...Kurono cracks me the hell up. XD She was like, "I read that at one point the Shinsengumi were raising pigs in their compound, so I immediately pictured OKITA WITH A KY00T PIGLET!!1!1" She then goes on to complain about how she did one of those what's your gender? livejournal tests and came out 50% male, but if that's so, why the hell do her male charas always end up gay or bi? Etc. ad infinitum.

Methinks if this woman met Ayamine there would be a very large, very dangerous sparkly-pink mushroom cloud explosion.

[akatonbo.livejournal.com]

My collection of shounen manga consists of Get Backers, Karakurizoushi Ayatsuri Sakon, Rurouni Kenshin, Flame of Recca, and Trigun. (And I keep meaning to pick up some YYH.)

Clearly, I am not the right person to answer this question. I have plenty of shoujo with no ghei in it...

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Shounen with no ghei is starting to become this endangered species. XD;;;

[vonbrigthi.livejournal.com]

does 20th Century Boys count? Jiraishin? (pretty much most of Tsutomu Takahashi's work isn't too... I think... um... I mean the art is pretty, but I can't say I ever get a strong "dear god they're doing each other" feeling from it.) Blame! ?

damn, you know I was going to say Koroshiya 1, except it's very... just wrong. *L* errr, maybe you want recent stuff though.

ah forget it, i'm off to draw pr0n. i mean, um, sleep. yeah. sleep.

yeah, and pigs that look like circles with eyes are very historical. ^_^

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Will look into it <3

(Wait, I thought we friended each other's journals over K1 yaoi? XD;;;)

So is Okita Souji pulling on Hijikata's ponytail as they shop for sweets very historical. "I want that one~~ *tugs*"

[tsutanai.livejournal.com]

Since the age of Captain Tsubasa, rare has been the shounen manga without a subtextual fanbase (though it may not be prominent). Heck, even the naked women in Saiyuuyouenden didn't stop the really really gawd awful slash art.

That said, um. Salaryman Kintaro? Maybe?

Let me know how the fox manga is. Because with a title like that, it MUST be referencing the bunraku Yoshitsune and the 1000 Cherry Trees which I once saw a bit of. I can send you a translation of that play, should you like. There's a bit about an impostured retainer, a dancing girl named Shizuka, and a drum with fox hide....

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Indeed it is referencing said bunraku, with Yoshitsune innit, and veddy pwettily too. *g* Lud, what would I do without cracked-out manga?

Onegai shimasu to the translation...

[angrybabble.livejournal.com]

bah, you must escape this silly idea that you can find shounen manga with no hint of ghei! as someone previously noted, fangirls can find it anywhere. XD I was actually complaining about the ridiculous fangirl gheibait in Dear Boys to Kai Ling the other day.

(excerpt from AIM conversation)

Ka: what IS it with modern shounen manga?
KaiLing: modern shounen manga is trying to appeal to the fangirls? >_>
Ka: yeah, it really, really is
Ka: the thing is that you don't NEED to try to appeal to them!
Ka: they'll come a'runnin' anyway!
KaiLing: i know!
Ka: we can gay shit up on our own, we don't need help! XD
KaiLing: no kidding.

(for the record, KL doesn't like yaoi much and doesn't see the point of shipping any couple, in general, unless it is ACTUALLY CANON. And even she thinks Ban and Ginji are gay. XD)

But, I know what you mean. You want shounen manga that you read and the canon's good enough. Where the idea of "well, they'd make a fun yaoitic pairing" crosses your fangirl mind but you don't bother seeking it out or thinking overmuch about it. Right? (Then again, my fangirl calibration may be off a bit, since I watch/read Trigun in that frame of mind, and apparently most fangirls see it much more sexually than I do. ^^;)

I was going to recommend "berserk" but then I remembered Guts and Griffith's Passionate Male Friendship. It's fucked up and gory and full of military maneuvres but in the end, no fangirl can watch it without thinking "holy shit, they are so fucking gay. GAY GAY GAY." That's because the basic feeling you get is "Griffith, the bishounen genius who could do no wrong, sold his ass to a noble for money when young to raise money (this is canon). Then he went crazy and did a lot of stupid shit that fucked up everyone's lives and killed most of the cast horribly because he thought his 'best friend' Guts, the ONLY PERSON who ever was his real friend that he told things to (no, really) had left him. Okay then. Then he later attempted suicide because his 'best friend' was humping a chick. OKAY THEN."

Uh, anyway.

Shounen manga that don't make me go running for the yaoi doujinshi aisle:

* Bleach (spiritually gifted punk boy becomes shinigami, has cute buddy relationship with badass female shinigami, supporting cast does not suck in any way.)
* GTO (okay, except Ryuji, the BEST FRIEND EVAR who really goes overboard for Onizuka, but he has an oppai girlfriend so, um, he can't be gay, right? We'll ignore his behaviour in Bad Company and Shonan Junai Gumi which even sports-watching het male friends of mine thought was questionable. But there are no prancing faggy girly-men with pet pigs.)
* Island (technically contains a faggy girly-man who is actually gay [and also incredibly badass], but he does not get any, and anyway this manga is so manly and l33t that who cares about some comparitively minor character's sexuality? Get the English version, the translation rules.)
* Violinist of Hamelin/Hameln (... I can't summarize this. It's hilarious, sad, tragic, gory, silly, ridiculous, fun, surprising, angsty, weird, fucked-up, goofy, dorky, dramatic, heart-breaking, EPIC. Uh, and really, really long--37 volumes, I think? Now technically there are a few charas who you go "..." at, and the mangaka loves his "everyone mocks raiel for being gay for hamel even though raiel is the hettest best friend ever" jokes, which are AWESOME and involve the townspeople putting up huge banners and posters with pictures of them about to kiss that say "RAIEL HA HOMO DA", but... it's one of those cases where the mangaka makes the jokes so the fangirls don't have to. Uh, but avoid it if seeing a disturbingly large percentage of the likable cast die would bother you.)

[xparrot.livejournal.com]

that reminds me, I really must see Berserk sometime.

and you're not the only one who doesn't really see it in Trigun. (Tho' that's partly 'cuz I don't think Vash is a sexual critter. I'm still not convinced he and his bro even have the equipment for it.)

...I was watching Naruto without an eye for the gay, until the show started shoving SasuNaru down our throats. What is up with modern shounen?? Oy vey...

[petronia.livejournal.com]

I've seen Berzerk, actually, and have been sort of not-reading the manga. *g* Hameln is on my list of "things to read eventually", but... no character death angst as of the moment. -_-; Normally I wouldn't mind it too much, but now that I've gotten suckered into a Shinsengumi manga that doesn't look as if it's going to pull any punches, I think my angst quotient is full up.

So Bleach it is, then!

[ayatsujik.livejournal.com]

Spam comment! Updated temp folder (http://aves.neutralred.org/temp) with more Tenipuri MP3s for you: the 80s disco mix of CWY, Fuji's first single, and the Ryoma-Tezuka linked singles.

Shounen manga *without* gay subtext? C'mon. Stop pursuing fruitless pursuits. XD I *might* have said BSn6 or Akira once, but Squid slashed the first and another friend the second, so, uh.

Or maybe Jin-roh. Though I couldn't say for sure if that's 'shounen' per se and if it derived from/had manga made out of it. ^^;;

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Yay for MP3s! (Why do Ryoma and - okay, I shouldn't ask, should I.)

I know one can slash Akira. I just don't like to ponder it. XD

[starlighter.livejournal.com]

[xparrot.livejournal.com]

Full Metal Alchemist? ...er, I've only seen the 1st v. of the manga, and what's out of the anime...but slashing Ed and Al would be difficult, because even tho' they're 15 & 14 year old brothers who are fanatically devoted to and living for each other, there's a certain physical impossibility to it. Given that Al is presently the cutest giant scary suit of armor ever.

OTOH there's new chars coming into the picture now and I shouldn't wonder that there's yaoiful possibilities in some of them...

[corneredangel.livejournal.com]

P.P.S. Is anyone I know currently reading a proper shounen manga that is universally acknowledged NOT to have teh ghei, either textually or subtextually? I need to recalibrate my brain. Thank you.

um...do Eagle and First President of Japan qualify? (...or are Carl Horn and I the *only* people who actually read Eagle...)

[petronia.livejournal.com]

I've heard of it but not seen it! Sounds interesting to me, actually.

[re-miel.livejournal.com]

Yes. Moi.
Will 'Jojo's Bizarre Adventure' do it for you ? [g]
Anyone for whom that's not enough can go and read City Hunter. Thank you for playing. [eg]
Besides, 'subtextually' bit is unfair - with enough experience (> 1 year in net.fandom) one can see slash in ANYTHING with two men in it.
Lastly - true-blue shoujo is much more puritanical about ghei than shounen. Take for instance 'Deimos no Hanayome'...

[petronia.livejournal.com]

(Ara, Remi-dono. Irasshaimase. Mezurashii desu wa. XD)

I suppose what I meant by "subtextually" was, "does not have a screaming horde of fangirls ready to cut one's throat for not believing in their pairings." And you're quite right about the shoujo, but I seem to be bouncing from shounen series to shounen series and have been all year... And I'm pretty sure I know people who slash JoJo. By the way. *eg*

Regardless I did get a number of recs out of this post. *g*

[xparrot.livejournal.com]

Even City Hunter goes & introduces Mick Angel in the last few volumes. Not that I can see Ryo as anything but...impressively straight. But still. As you said, if there's two guys who have been within spitting distance at some point in canon - *bam* there's the gay.

[naanima.livejournal.com]

So, what volume of Peace Maker are you up to?

[petronia.livejournal.com]

I have up to vol.6. Am currently a couple of chapters into vol.5. ^_^v

...She really doesn't pull any punches, does she. ^_^;;

[kickinpants.livejournal.com]

Shounen romance is rather hard to "slash" together. Oh My Goddess, for instance, or Saikano. You can do anything if you think hard enough (e.g. Shuji and Atsuji, so grieved by the fact the girls they like are either away or not reciprocating, fall into each, etc.) 3x3 eyes may be another shounen title that lacks the yaoi-girl groups.

I think any show/manga coming out now though with two or more male characters has a chance of "yaoification".

[acadine.livejournal.com]

!gay manga = Psychometrer Eiji.

I don't know; as people have said, if you're proficient you could gay it up, but it's one of those that leaves me with absolutely no desire to do so. Then again, I suppose that's not saying much, no?

There's always gangster manga, which I've started to have a disturbing interesting in, but that's really more seinen than shounen.

Old shounen that Has Not The Gay: Gasaraki and Gunnm, she says, pimping her favorites.

Or there's the Eva manga. A ha ha ha!

And then again, if you want properly masculine no-hint-of-teh-ghei comics... why manga?

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Well, it's not really dammit-no-hint-of-ghei. More like what angrybabble noted above; a shounen series where neither the fandom nor - for pete's sake - the canon is going to beat me over the head with it. ^^; Just for balance's sake.

You're following Psychometrer Eiji, then? Is it good? How does it develop?