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Up to episode 20, in two long evening marathons with cake and booze. Basically this series is to Gundam Wing what Prince of Tennis is to Slam Dunk (though Geass's political plot makes a lot more sense than GW's). HERE'S HOPING FOR A MUSICAL.

My favorite character is still Lelouch. XD It's like Yagami Light meets Corwin out of Amber squished into the physical form of a teeny CLAMP!bishounen whose features were never designed to showcase that much villainous glee - I just never tire of watching the little bastard go. He charges headlong into moral bankruptcy because innately vicious, I think (this is not the same as saying he doesn't care about people), no surprise in a family constructed as object demonstration of no-holds-barred Darwinian selection. Britannian royalty: SORT OF LIKE FERRETS?

Compared to Light I feels a lot more affection for Lelouch, if not sympathy. Light might be foiled from time to time but Lelouch FAILS. He can't run, he's arse at piloting mechs, Euphie has better wilderness survival skills than he does - and whenever he's down, C.C. can be counted on to give him a kick where it hurts. It's GREBT. XD Whereas Suzaku is the opposite, sympathy but no affection. He's a mess and sinking deeper with every passing episode, much like Zechs in GW you can't root for him even wrongheadedly because he makes no sense. I'd like Euphie to save him; it's certainly not the other way around.

Charmian says Geass is a huge doujinshi fandom now, which I well believe because anyone x anyone in this series is a recipe for hilarity. This setting aside the fact that the canon itself is basically an ADHD cliché collage, so when you're watching you're like, "Wait, didn't I see that happen in Gundam Seed Final Fantasy XII Death Note Ouran?" ...It sounds like I'm criticizing it for being ersatz but the verve is as much in the way it's put together as anything. I do think the series is something of an evolutionary end point though (at least, until Japan tops itself yet again XD).

DAMN YOU *shakes fist*

Date: 2007-03-25 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com
I've resisted watching this series, and now you've just gone and sold it to me D:<

Yeah, it sure seems like all the doujinshika are all over this series. I'd go so far as to say 40% of the daily updates at YouClub and Toranoana consist of Code Geass stuff. And a noteable amount of those seem to hentai with that blind girl in the wheelchair.

...Well them, I better go clear up some discspace so that I can start downloading this 50+ eps monster x_x

Re: DAMN YOU *shakes fist*

Date: 2007-03-25 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com
It's not a monster, though. Ep 22 just came out. XD Eventually it's going to be two seasons, but the second season starts in the fall.

Date: 2007-03-25 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com
Well, when you read that it was originally supposed to be much longer, but they had to squish things around and rejigger them, a lot of the pacing makes more sense. XD

0_o But how can it be PoT:SD when CG's plot makes more sense than GWing's? I mean, I generally think of the difference between PoT and SD being one of quality, but I don't think the quality differential is that much, because making sense is a biggie.

Date: 2007-03-25 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
Yeah, a lot of series start off that way nowadays - Chevalier did. Usually after an episode or two the pacing smoothes out, but Geass kept on being ADHD.

PoT:SD in the sense that it's more conventionally sparkly-pretty, the fangirl bait is more calculated - or at least entirely aware of itself - it has angst but doesn't delve for the heartfelt tragedy/drama response, and the plot has a way of devolving repeatedly into crack. XD For all that GW was bishounen heavy compared to earlier iterations it had that 90s earnestness about it.

Date: 2007-03-25 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com
A member of the staff leaves spoilers at 2ch, and s/he mentioned that there were a lot of problems deciding what they had to cut out. A lot of the subplots were supposed to be developed more.

? But wasn't GWing conventionally pretty by Gundam standards? I think CG is only slightly more pretty that GSeed anyway. XD But yes, they are pandering to the fangirls, only doing so in a more smart way that GWing, IMHO. But because of this knowingness CG lacks a certain kind of sincerity. However, I wouldn't say that CG is not really trying to do heartfelt tragedy/drama, because otherwise why all the angst? PoT doesn't really try to go as deep as SD, but I think it's arguable that CG is trying to move the audience (but the sparkliness does undermine it: personally I wouldn't care if the show was all doom n' gloom, but I am angsth0). But what really messes things up is that I think that CG's politics are more well-thought out, which would be like saying that PoT has a more interesting/intelligent conception of sports than SD. XD

Date: 2007-03-26 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
See, IMO Geass's creators know that they're being undermined by their own sparkliness, the way the creators of PoT anime know. *g* I guess what I really want to compare it to is GSeed, which was also calculated fangirl bait but went for the melodramatic throat of the matter, so you end up taking it pretty seriously, in a high operatic sort of way. (Well, in GSeed characters also die in droves, so the stakes are higher. So far no one's died in Geass that the audience is emotionally attached to.)

It is v. intelligent and knowing but I don't in fact feel it's insincere, because you get the impression the creators heartily enjoy their own crack. Like when I said if KKM were one of its own characters it would be Cherie - if Geass were one of its own characters it would be Lloyd. XD

Date: 2007-03-26 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldserpent.livejournal.com
So, so far are you taking CG in a similarly high opera melodramatic way? I think I do, but I am not sure if I'm not doing it wrong again. But yes, the CG animators need to be aware of their own sparkliness, although IMHO they can't get the full milage out of their own sparkliness because it's in some ways a rather generic pretty. Actually, I do think they will kill someone off soon. Although if they don't, it might be even more interesting.

I think the show that really worked that approach to the edge was Utena, but CG can't really slip into similar space with its style and content. Or can it? Heh.

Date: 2007-03-25 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harajukufuuri.livejournal.com
A BIG FRICKING YES to all of the commentary. So bad that it's good! (Especially because I mentally compare it to SEED even when I don't want to.)

He can't run, he's arse at piloting mechs, Euphie has better wilderness survival skills than he does - and whenever he's down, C.C. can be counted on to give him a kick where it hurts. It's GREBT. XD

ILU. ♥

However I.. am slightly ashamed to say I differ on Suzaku though, he's stupid but I just want to pet him. I think it was how bratty he was as a kid that did it. :D;;;

Date: 2007-03-25 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
It's impossible not to compare it to Seed. When the island thing happened I was like "OH FOR CRIPES' SAKE! *throws up hands*"

The wonder was they managed to wreck the potential for sexual tension, since Lelouch gets to see his sister naked and Suzaku (bless) ignores the girl in favour of the uniform.

I should write up a spurious pairing analysis post for this the way I did with FMA. XD

Date: 2007-03-25 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maeran.livejournal.com
...

Damn it. *goes to look*

He's a mess and sinking deeper with every passing episode, much like Zechs in GW you can't root for him even wrongheadedly because he makes no sense.

GW was the second anime I got into (explains my not-easy-to-squick-ness, o.O), and I think around that point I decided anime has its own internal logic that must not be questioned or worse, closely examined. XD It's Supposed To Make Sense, except it doesn't, not really.

Date: 2007-03-26 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
And then you found out that no, it was just Gundam? XD But true - a lot of stuff back then didn't make 100% sense. Evangelion, Ghost in the Shell, Escaflowne... I think things are actually better in that respect now, not just that my taste has improved. XD

Date: 2007-03-26 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maeran.livejournal.com
Given what I got into AFTER GW was things like TeniPuri, I'm not too sure if I learned my lesson. XD I don't actually get into a lot of things, and when I do, it's totally RANDOM. That's to say, can you find a pattern in: Sailor Moon, Card Captor Sakura, Gundam Wing, X (manga only), Yami no Matsuei, Rurouni Kenshin, and Prince of Tennis?

I mean. ^^;

Date: 2007-03-25 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gokumew2.livejournal.com
Up to 20? Get ready for the next episodes! 22 is mind-blowingly good! So much luv for this series!!

Date: 2007-03-25 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] one-if-by-land.livejournal.com
I breezed through Code Geass in a day, obsessed for the following week, and now I'm trying to decide if I like it or not. XD The plot is just so messy, and Lelouch is just about the only character who I've become attached to - this wouldn't be odd, except that the series has introduced so many people already, and I usually need at least two for ficcing purposes though I guess I have a soft spot for CC, too.

Date: 2007-03-26 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
I think it just zooms by too fast for one to develop a strong attachment to the characters - I like nearly all of them, actually, but they don't quite occupy my consciousness the way characters from FMA and GSeed do. (Granted, I don't fic for those series either. XD) Yeah, I think I like Lelouch and CC best too, but it's hard to know what to say about CC without going out on a limb.

Date: 2007-03-25 08:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] incandescens
With regard to a different fandom -- one of my regular haunts informs me that there's new French Jojo translation coming out. (http://www.archonia.com/index.php?page=article&aid=40267) Does this look like Steel Ball Run to you? (It isn't the regular third season, as the blurb suggests; that's already been done in the French, as has the "urban legend" arc.

Date: 2007-03-25 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
No, that's part five! So they're continuing it then, great. XD

Date: 2007-03-25 09:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] incandescens
Excellent! I'd been hoping that they'd get round to part five, but they seemed to have hit a hiatus after part four. Brilliant. ;) Thank you!

Date: 2007-03-25 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corneredangel.livejournal.com
When they try to do 'tactical maps, yeah'!!!, it's like, an LoGH parody. Or, alternately, a parody of my military geography class back in undergad ('La Grange points', wuzzat?!?').

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