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Jan. 22nd, 2012 01:35 pm
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[personal profile] petronia
My grandfather passed away yesterday morning (the evening of the 21st, Shanghai time).

I find it difficult to talk about death except via inappropriate humour. As such, I am now confessing to the Internet at large that I don't know what the dress protocol is when a beloved relative dies on Chinese New Year. I mean, I can't wear red... but I can't wear black/white either. It's Chinese New Year. If any less-faily Chinese person who knows the answer reads this, please reply in the next 30 minutes as I really do have to leave the house to acquire food.

Date: 2012-01-22 09:04 pm (UTC)
paxpinnae: Inara Serra,being more awesome than you. (Default)
From: [personal profile] paxpinnae
I'm sorry to hear about your grandfather. Losing family during the holidays is about 100% worse than losing family at any other time. I'm an ignorant white person and I don't know what I'm talking about, but maybe wear red with a black/white armband? Or black/white with a red armband? That way you're acknowledging both your loss and the season.

Also, humor is totally a valid response to death, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a pompous parasite who's more concerned about appearances than what the dead person would have actually wanted. The only way my cousins and I got through my grandmother's funeral last year without completely melting down was through inappropriate giggling at her request to be buried with the ashes of her (evil, blind, hate-filled) cat, who'd died more than a decade before.

Date: 2012-01-22 10:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] horusporus
my condolences and sympathies for your loss. I wish I can help out with your question...

Date: 2012-01-22 11:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] arboretum
i'm sorry for your loss also.

i can't answer your question at all, though, as i am a much more faily chinese person than you or pretty much anyone i know.

Date: 2012-01-23 03:56 am (UTC)
melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
From: [personal profile] melannen
With you on the ignorant white person, but I can tell you that my relatives have had a habit of dying around Christmas, and I actually have a mix of "inappropriately morbid Christmas music" that I played a lot for a few years. "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" featured heavily. It's surprisingly realistic in some ways.

(I am sorry for your loss. It's hard. But as you can probably tell, inappropriate humor is my first reaction too...)

Date: 2012-01-23 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ukefied
I'm very sorry for your loss...

Date: 2012-01-23 03:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starshadow_rivaulx
Just caught this. Deepest sympathies and condolences on the passing of your grandfather.

Date: 2012-01-22 07:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] reynardine.livejournal.com
My sympathies on your loss.

Date: 2012-01-22 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear this.

If it's any help, when someone dies close to New Year, the Japanese send out notices to friends saying they're not receiving New Year cards this year, thus effectively cancelling New Year for themselves.

Date: 2012-01-22 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kuroraka.livejournal.com
I'm sorry for your loss.

Date: 2012-01-22 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corneredangel.livejournal.com
My condolences. For whatever little that's worth, at least you had a chance to know him.

Date: 2012-01-22 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pere-chan.livejournal.com
Very sorry for your loss.

Also sorry I spotted this late but: Blue is an accepted funeral colour for grandchildren of the deceased, so maybe something in navy would be appropriate? Hope that helps.

Date: 2012-01-22 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidlet.livejournal.com
One wears black (i prefer white), and does not celebrate CNY. Also, in case you were thinking of getting married in the next three months, starting a business, anything that involves celebration/festivities,...nope, if one chooses to uphold the custom.

Date: 2012-01-22 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidlet.livejournal.com
Also, I very callously forgot to say that I am sorry that he's gone. Sucks to lose close relatives any time of year.

Date: 2012-01-22 10:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] incandescens
I'm sorry for your loss. My condolences.

Date: 2012-01-22 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marej.livejournal.com
I'm sorry. *hugs*

Date: 2012-01-22 10:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] acchikocchi.livejournal.com
I'm really sorry to hear this.

Date: 2012-01-22 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com
Can't offer you any advice whatsoever regarding Chinese dress protocol, but I do want to offer my sincerest condolences. I'm truly sorry for your loss, I know how much it hurts. I hope you're doing okay (or as okay as you can be, all things considered).

Date: 2012-01-23 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coloredink.livejournal.com
Condolences.

I asked my family about your dilemma and we were all stumped! Hope you found something to wear.

Date: 2012-01-23 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maeran.livejournal.com
I'm really sorry for your loss. *hugs*

Date: 2012-01-23 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cis.livejournal.com
my condolences - this must be very difficult for you.

in one of my many attempts to grok confucianism i sat down with the book of rites and very quickly discovered that significant parts of it are thought experiments on a theme of "what is the protocol when a dear relative dies on [significant day]?" the content would move onto something different and then in the next lot of assorted questions it was as if some nagging thought had just occurred to the writer-- "but, wait! what is the protocol when the bride's father dies after she has left her natal house but before the marriage ceremony is finished?" (iirc, if she is on the road, she must turn around and go back home to mourn; but if the marriage ceremony is taking place then she must stay, as this is her house now)

Date: 2012-01-23 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luckykitty.livejournal.com
I'm really sorry for your loss. *hugs*

Date: 2012-01-23 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsutanai.livejournal.com
I'm very sorry to hear this.

Date: 2012-01-23 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canis-m.livejournal.com
My thoughts are with you.

Date: 2012-01-23 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naanima.livejournal.com
Condolences.

Date: 2012-01-23 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
This actually makes me feel particularly better as it turns out I'm not the only person who cannot help thinking about this sort of thing, at least historically XD; (no one else in my family has the least liking for or sense of protocol or ritual).

Date: 2012-01-23 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrypark.livejournal.com
That's so sad to hear, especially around the holiday season. I'm sorry for your loss. :(

Date: 2012-01-23 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ampersandals.livejournal.com
I'm sorry for your loss.

Re: dress code - I thought black? Iirc, New Year - as well as other celebrations, for some amount of time - is basically cancelled. (Though uhhh by the time this comment has been posted, you've probably left your house. I hope you've resolved the issue, and that your family is fine.)

Date: 2012-01-23 04:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sub-divided.livejournal.com
People have such good answers! I'm also really sorry to hear about your grandfather.

Date: 2012-01-23 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladderwrack.livejournal.com
So sorry to hear this. My sympathies.

Date: 2012-01-24 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fantasygirl49.livejournal.com
i'm sorry for u loss; in this case what's appropriate to wear for the new year could be something neutral, not black/white but not colorful, something in between; sorry hope this help u in anyway since it's hard to lose anyone close to u, but i think u grandfather would understand and won't insist u have to follow protocol.

Date: 2012-01-24 01:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kovaa.livejournal.com
condolences. my thoughts are with you and yours. *hugs*

Date: 2012-01-24 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com
So sorry for your loss -- condolences, thoughts, prayers, hugs. I totally understanding wanting to use dark (borderline inappropriate) humor in difficult times -- just so long as you're with others who share your sense of humor. (My dad's side of the family can out-morbid-humor just about anyone any day of the week...)

Date: 2012-01-24 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoiniks.livejournal.com
I'm sorry I spot this post late.

My condolence for your loss.


Date: 2012-01-25 03:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] koganbot
Just saw this. Best wishes, and my condolences, and thanks for sharing your humor and your dilemma.

Date: 2012-01-25 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unearthly-calm.livejournal.com
I'm sorry for your loss. I hope there are many family members and friends around you who can be there for you right now.

Date: 2012-01-25 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
Thank you! I got your card the other day, by the way. Very much appreciated. XD

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