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[petronia]

• 13:16 got up to watch Barack Obama's Inauguration - probably would've stayed asleep til 1 otherwise, so a good thing #
• 14:39 we'd been wondering WTH could possess Les Ailes to turf the downtown Archambault store, and now we have an answer: Forever 21 orz #
• 14:40 this not a week after Mix 96 was rebranded to Virgin Radio orz||| #
• 14:41 the first thing they did was to replace the Sunday night world music show, which has been running for approximately as long as I have lived #
• 14:41 with... wait for it... THE UK TOP 40 COUNTDOWN #
• 14:44 this has been yr weekly update on the advances of global corporate brand hegemony, fm yr friendly local MBA marketing major #
• 16:45 walked into class 5min late to find the room filled with law students watching a documentary about Girl Talk #
• 20:47 RiP: A Remix Manifesto tinyurl.com/6hs8uu #
• 20:49 and here's where to find it, in /some/ form: www.opensourcecinema.org/ #
• 23:06 actually, I have learnt from this that Girl Talk is only Girl Talk by night; by day he is a bio-medical engineer named Gregg. #
• 23:10 which for the purposes of the film is kind of brill, as it allowed him to talk about the impact of IP restrictions on both his personae #
• 23:12 copyright law as relative to the Superhero, and patent law relative to the Cover Identity #
• 23:31 actually, I tend to be irritated by the "copyleftist" sense of cheap outrage - young-people-who-geddit-versus-the-old-fogies-in-suits - #
• 23:33 as a total lack of /emotional/ concern for artists' moral rights just comes across as entitlement... but that doesn't mean they're wrong #
• 23:34 it just means that the attitude of a previous generation was to criticize Led Zeppelin for ripping off Muddy Waters, #
• 23:35 whereas the attitude of /this/ generation is to hold said fact up as a precedent for their moral right to sample Led Zep without paying #
• 23:38 if I wrote a novel and it didn't inspire ficcers and fanartists to start appropriating, I'd feel like I was getting it wrong #
• 23:39 but I doubt I'd think like that if I /didn't/ come up through fan culture, because I'm a control freak with my creative work #
• 23:41 as it is, I think artists have every right to be offended at unofficial "remixes" of their work, but not necessarily the right to stop them #
• 23:42 call it a hunch, but I doubt Leonardo da Vinci would've been enthused about what Duchamp did here www.marcelduchamp.net/L.H.O.O.Q.php #
• 23:49 then again, even Lars Ulrich is sort of coming around #
• 23:50 good thing the film touched on scientific patents, though, as I think that's more important in the grand scheme of things #
• 23:52 back to brand hegemony: apparently, retailers all want in on Montreal because Montrealers spend 9.4% of their disposable income on clothes #
• 23:52 which is 50% more than the Canadian average #
• 23:54 I mean, I am basically /that/ consumer: the one that goes back to Zara every two weeks to see how well it reflects style.com #
• 23:55 sororial unit is more an H&M girl #
• 23:57 in completely other news, Andrew WK just put out an album of J-Pop covers: tinyurl.com/7xc6vw #
• 23:58 the fact that there is an Andrew WK cover of "Shimauta" extant in the universe fills me with wonder #
• 01:15 as addendum to the review of "A Remix Manifesto" ♫ blip.fm/~1pdyl #
• 01:19 and Concordia U's rotoscoping project at P4k: tinyurl.com/48vfph #
• 01:23 ...and now I have this stuck in my head (would've made a good sequence for the film too) ♫ blip.fm/~1pe1i #
• 01:33 instead they animated the history of this sample... making a music film is all about harnessing the emotional p... ♫ blip.fm/~1pe5o #

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Comments

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

as it is, I think artists have every right to be offended at unofficial "remixes" of their work, but not necessarily the right to stop them

Hmm. I don't think that, in the multiple kerfluffles I've seen on the matter, anyone has really taken this position: (i.e., 'you have a legal right to do it, but it offends me.')

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Just like, on the topic of C&C, no one ever takes the position of "The reader has the right to publically post whatever response they have to the work in question, and the author has the right to be offended and upset by said response, if they happen to encounter it." Which puzzles me, as that is clearly the way it works both in real (pro) life and as a matter of practicality online. XD But no, it's either, "I'm offended, and you shouldn't be doing it!" or "I have every right to do it, and you're wrong to be offended!"

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

I think it's different, though, because there is no way anyone could think it is illegal to post that you don't like a work? Whereas, many people think it may be illegal to remix.

Maybe this is because when someone publicly says they are offended by something, it is usually read as a request not to do it?

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Well, legality follows on moral right / ethics, no? It's not wrong because it's illegal, it's illegal because some/most/all think it's wrong.

Yes, and I think the failure to make that mental distinction causes a good deal of the talking past each other.

[(Anonymous)]

then again, even Lars Ulrich is sort of coming around
he has to...i mean fans in the 80s and 90s have vastly changed and the young fans wouldn't have known any of their work if it had not been sampled by artists that are more prominent in this day and age.

musicians have to view it in a quid pro quo way -- because the entertainment industry is a volatile one. i always thought that the end game for sampling is always paying up once you earn from it...though im not sure if vanilla ice did it when he sampled queen/bowie's music.

[aggysaur.livejournal.com]

that was me T_T too early in the morning.

[petronia.livejournal.com]

In practice that's not how sample clearance works, though - it's upfront payment. Which may indeed be what needs changing...

[briar_pipe]

Out of all of this, my brain lights on another cover of Shimauta?

...which is probably what's wrong with the world.

[petronia.livejournal.com]

XD That point is as valid/important as any other in the post!