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petroniaIt was... thematically richer than I expected? XD More imaginatively coherent than physically coherent, a bit Terry Gilliams's Baron Munchausen-ish. (Also I kept hearing this Suzanne Vega song in my head...) Stuns one into submission with an excess of sound and vision, though, making it difficult for POWERZ OF OVER-ANALYSIS to activate. XD
Also I think I've watched too many Epic (Fandom) Event movies with "actually we shot this scene but if we'd left it in the final cut would've been five hours long" plotholes, because I'm getting too good at spotting and mentally filling in said blanks - it's almost its own filmic language at this point.
My sister informs me there may be spoilers in the comments section of this post. XD
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I spent this last weekend doing blissfully nothing, for value of "nothing" equals "mud masking and reading We The Living". Basically I read Ayn Rand for moe value, it's a literary guilty pleasure at this point. XD What I keep hearing is that there's going to be an Atlas Shrugged movie with Angelina Jolie as Dagny, and hey, BRING IT.
Objectively (hahaha) speaking We The Living may be her best novel as there is 100x less speechifying and not much to argue in her portrayal of Soviet Russia, though critics thought otherwise in the 1930s.
Also I think I've watched too many Epic (Fandom) Event movies with "actually we shot this scene but if we'd left it in the final cut would've been five hours long" plotholes, because I'm getting too good at spotting and mentally filling in said blanks - it's almost its own filmic language at this point.
My sister informs me there may be spoilers in the comments section of this post. XD
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I spent this last weekend doing blissfully nothing, for value of "nothing" equals "mud masking and reading We The Living". Basically I read Ayn Rand for moe value, it's a literary guilty pleasure at this point. XD What I keep hearing is that there's going to be an Atlas Shrugged movie with Angelina Jolie as Dagny, and hey, BRING IT.
Objectively (hahaha) speaking We The Living may be her best novel as there is 100x less speechifying and not much to argue in her portrayal of Soviet Russia, though critics thought otherwise in the 1930s.
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Date: 2007-05-29 04:40 pm (UTC)So at the end Will was coming to stay with Elizabeth + kidlet for good.
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Date: 2007-05-29 04:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-29 05:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-29 04:45 pm (UTC)2. Hans Zimmer, please reacquaint yourself with the notion of a pianissimo. (Hans Zimmer's scores and the swords'n'sandals genre have followed the same downhill path since Gladiator... >_<)
3. The Many Jack Sparrows. WTF?
4. Is it just me, or did Keira and Orlando sort of learn how to act a little bit?
5. Is it just me, or are Elizabeth and Will graced with remarkable character development? And Jack with none at all, but that's sort of the essence of Jack Sparrow (ship, sea, rum).
6. Calypso and Davy Jones: not resolved. Does that fit into your cut scenes?
7. Hullo? You didn't comment on Keith's cameo? How can one not comment on Keith's cameo?
8. T'es allée voir ça seule ou avec quelqu'un? :P
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Date: 2007-05-29 05:05 pm (UTC)OTOH I did like the whole bit with Will's sword.
3. Being Jack Sparrow? Also - it's not about living forever, it's about living with yourself.
4-5. I almost think Elizabeth and Will could be better characters if they weren't limited by being Keira and Orlando. XD But at least Keira and Orlando's limitations are matching.
6. I thought it was resolved? Like it's meant to be a tragedy despite them still loving each other, no? (I'd thought they were going to reconcile though. XD;) Could've been handled more clearly in the end, granted.
7. I'd comment if I had anything to say but it was one of those scenes that kind of stand without extraneous elaboration. XD
I went with Erin and then we met Andrew after.
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Date: 2007-05-29 05:19 pm (UTC)3. LOLZ I didn't realize.
6. In the scene between Calypso and Davy Jones, she's like, "We'll be together after I'm free," and then much later she's freed and turns into a giant mass of white crabs or whatever, and then Davy Jones gets killed and thrown into the sea, and... then what? I mean, Davy Jones' heart gets replaced by Will's. But Will's heart "loves" Elizabeth, or whatever. So what happens to Davy Jones' love for Calypso?
9. When Will gets killed by Davy Jones, did you sort of go "OMG yes the plot is SAVED, you hear me? SAVED." like I did?
(Though at that moment I actually thought that, since Elizabeth seemed to have become a pirate captain (and king!) herself, there wouldn't be that huge tragic 10-year separation thing for those two. Sort of like a "modern female empowerment laughs in the face of old prophecies/curses that assume that women have to stay on the land!" loophole. Didn't seem to work out that way, though. But it was a very epic tragic separation. Also a very epic kiss, don't you think?)
(I suppose it was very meaningful to fans that Jack was selfless enough to "save" Will's life, or something.)
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Date: 2007-05-29 05:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-29 05:32 pm (UTC)And then Will, like, ferries Norrington's soul to the afterlife, which is going to be fabulously awkward.
6. Well, at that point she still didn't know that Davy had betrayed her by telling the pirates how to bind her in the form of a human, right? ...But I guess because he falls into the whirlpool so it's like he dies in her arms, or something.
9. I just loved the look on Jack Sparrow's face at that point. But yeah, I don't know why it'd be impossible for him to stand in a bucket of seawater, or meet Elizabeth on a dinghy. Unless he really is supposed to spend 10 years sailing the metaphysical seas and not the real ones? XD
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Date: 2007-05-29 05:45 pm (UTC)And then Will, like, ferries Norrington's soul to the afterlife, which is going to be fabulously awkward.
>_> (But Norrington is so, you know, well brought-up, that I'm sure the conversation will be very civil. In any case, they will have to talk about the 10-year separation thingie. Norrington will offer his deepest sympathies. They may or may not joke about the sword.)
6. ... So, what was the point of Will telling that to Calypso? To make the winds turn in their favour and against Davy Jones' ship? I dunno, I just really don't like how this plotline was "used". It didn't seem very correct. That morally discomforting feeling of the 2nd movie. :(
9. Unfortunately, I think Will is supposed to spend the 10 years sailing the metaphysical seas only. But I thought that Elizabeth would be able to sail them, too, since she sort of knows the way. A bit of ship-rocking trouble now and then to be with your true love - what's the problem with that? ^^;;
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Date: 2007-05-29 05:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-29 05:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-29 05:23 pm (UTC)...so *she* can pass it on to you, sorry.
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Date: 2007-05-29 05:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-29 07:19 pm (UTC)http://rabbitprint.livejournal.com/101921.html <-- brilliant realist take on the ending
I dunno, I liked that it was all about CHOICE and CONFLICT OF INTEREST and WHAT YOU REALLY WANT, but the jokes were kind of stale and there were like, a ton of dropped threads and mixed messages. (Gives the fans something to analyze I guess (When does the extended edition come out?))
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Date: 2007-05-30 04:09 am (UTC)...of course, *we the Soviet Russians* are sort of like, fuck, should've just shot the lot of you when we had the chance. Would have saved the world, and oh so many English majors, so much trouble...
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Date: 2007-06-03 11:23 pm (UTC)Me too!
I heard about the movie as well...that will be fun to watch. *wonders who they'll pick for d'Anconia and Rearden*