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But evidently I will keep thinking about this stuff until I get it out of my brain, so:


1) One appreciates the need for a deus ex machina go-to in fic, but when Canon says Mycroft is the British government, can he be like... less literally so? less comprehensively so?... Dudes, have you seen the British government lately? The more control over everything you cede Mycroft in fic, the more I derail mentally castigating a fictional character for shiz that's not even in the fic. It really cramps my style. Also, this is a fascist fantasy. So, yanno, examine that impulse and metaphorize it or put kink quotes around it or whatever, but you have to own it.

If you go back and read ACD!Holmes' explanation of what he meant by that phrase, he kind of makes Mycroft sound like... Wolfram Alpha. Or IBM Watson. A version thereof who belonged to a good club.


2) Mycroft/Lestrade is a crack pairing. We get that much. A lot of it doesn't have much light to shed on the canon. (It does shed light on issues in point 1, which I think is maybe why it exists - fandom unconsciously solving problems of its own creation.) I'm not invested in it, meaning that SHEER HUMOURLESS PEDANTRY is what motivates my annoyance when ppl say, "They don't even meet in canon!" Because: in the cap-C Canon version of BRUC, Mycroft goes to Lestrade first, and they show up at 221B together.


3) I have figured out what it is with White Collar. It's like this isn't the real series; the real series was the stuff that happened earlier, the cat and mouse game between Peter and Neal and their respective teams, romantic interests, underworld enemies... This is a fluffy speculative futurefic by someone who has a kink for collar devices.

Date: 2011-03-26 07:25 am (UTC)
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gdi num lock was off

3: HAHAHAHAHAHA omg

Date: 2011-03-26 11:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] charmian
Also, this is a fascist fantasy. So, yanno, examine that impulse and metaphorize it or put kink quotes around it or whatever, but you have to own it.

Holmes fandom has fascist tendencies? XD Eh, but fans examining the political implications of their kinks is something I'm not v. used to, but perhaps things have changed since then.

Date: 2011-03-27 06:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] charmian
Mmm, but if they do that, isn't it like, not pure id fic? Since that is pretty much the definition of the super-ego. I guess I've been in anime fandom too long, so that even the canon creators owning the creepiness is a departure from the norm.

I'm not sure... Aren't there some leftist mystery writers? Most of the mystery essays I read dealt with the golden age/noir novels, not the current state of the genre.

Date: 2011-03-30 09:31 pm (UTC)
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I'm pretty sure "Mystrade" exists because people think Rupert Graves and/or Mark Gatiss is hot and want to slash one or both of them with someone, but don't want to disturb the OTPness of Sherlock/John. . . so they just slash them together! There is no argument against it since the characters barely interact, so yeah.

Also, your analysis is always fascinating and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Date: 2011-03-31 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coloredink
No, it's true; I hang out on the kinkmeme and have seen quite a few requests for OTP disturbance. XD But it's true, it's not a threat. Actually, Sherlock fandom as a whole is refreshingly wank-free. (Watch, now that I've said that something horrible will happen.) I have no idea why/how this is, but doubtless you have theories.

But you bring up a good point re: perceived threat levels to OTP in fandom. Immediate examples include Harry Potter and Avatar: the Last Airbender, where the OTP(s) were not revealed until the very end, and oooohhhhh the outrage! No such wank, as far as I can tell, in SGA fandom, where McShep appears to predominate. Fascinating.

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