Change 'destruction' to 'an inherant level of disenfranchisement and cleaving from the norm' and I'm totally with him on that.
(I mean, not to confuse the difference between 'gay art' and 'arts about the gays' - I am already fully uncomfortable with my exploitation and fetishization of a minority, much less so than any copyright crap in non-rpf fandom.)
But is he really the only one out there without a bassline? And is that so deviant that he equates it with your traditional gay suicidism? Where does that leave PWolf, who makes really good, but overall fairly standard pop, and doesn't use pronouns (just glitter)? A sell-out? Obviously not - he's doing way weirder stuff than Final Fantasy, if you look at it from the mainstream pov, you just can't always hear it in every individual song.
So possibly we need to include visuals of the actual act in the equation. The visuals for FF being: one dude, consistently sleevess and gawky, working his ass off up on stage - essentially performing high-level spatial (?) reasoning beyond the level of most of the audience - and translating that to recognizable music. The most interesting thing to me is that he is not getting lost in the music, he is not playing intuitively or songs from his ~*heart*~. It's structured, it's mathematical, it's memorized. It contradicts what we traditionally think of as art. Have you seen the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5RAw5otS-w) of him singing Cliquot at a Beirut show? He leaves before the song's over - it's like, without the cover of constant industriousness, he is lost and exposed onstage.
I lost my point, somewhere. ALL I MEAN IS THAT IT'S ADORABLE AND SEXY.
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Date: 2007-11-22 12:21 pm (UTC)(I mean, not to confuse the difference between 'gay art' and 'arts about the gays' - I am already fully uncomfortable with my exploitation and fetishization of a minority, much less so than any copyright crap in non-rpf fandom.)
But is he really the only one out there without a bassline? And is that so deviant that he equates it with your traditional gay suicidism? Where does that leave PWolf, who makes really good, but overall fairly standard pop, and doesn't use pronouns (just glitter)? A sell-out? Obviously not - he's doing way weirder stuff than Final Fantasy, if you look at it from the mainstream pov, you just can't always hear it in every individual song.
So possibly we need to include visuals of the actual act in the equation. The visuals for FF being: one dude, consistently sleevess and gawky, working his ass off up on stage - essentially performing high-level spatial (?) reasoning beyond the level of most of the audience - and translating that to recognizable music. The most interesting thing to me is that he is not getting lost in the music, he is not playing intuitively or songs from his ~*heart*~. It's structured, it's mathematical, it's memorized. It contradicts what we traditionally think of as art. Have you seen the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5RAw5otS-w) of him singing Cliquot at a Beirut show? He leaves before the song's over - it's like, without the cover of constant industriousness, he is lost and exposed onstage.
I lost my point, somewhere. ALL I MEAN IS THAT IT'S ADORABLE AND SEXY.