Links, JoJo, et cetera
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petroniaSomeone I know has read this, right? My friends are all about stuff like this.
Dear Mr. CNN, how to make yourself look like 1 x asshole. (link from![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
jokersama)
Somewhat relatedly, Tania made me watch Team America: World Police last night.
Long review: bla bla perception of self versus perception of the Other bla bla Brechtian alienation bla bla projectile vomiting bla bla stylization of violence as commodification bla bla hypocrisy of Hollywood bla bla Kim Jong-Il plushie bla bla cakes.
Short review: ^^;;
Srsly I am one of those Asians Who Do Not Understand Sarcasm (tm), so that is my default reaction to all forms of satire. (I do understand sarcasm, but I had to learn how to speak it, as if it were a foreign language. This job has been good practice, because the default workplace humour setting here is "outrageous statement perpetrated in sober, conversational tones as part of a serious discussion.")
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Three SSBB submissions reviewed, beta'd and accepted: two for July, one for August. *is productive* Keep'em coming! :D
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Recently I thought about sorting through my MSN chatlogs from last year and posting all those related to Mirage of Blaze. While they're not what one might call reference material-worthy I did recount large tracts of the plot in considerable detail - in fact I can remember days when I told Aki the story of the last five chapters or whatnot then turned around and regurgitated the whole thing to Chrissie a second time. XD I don't know that I'm likely to write up more respectable summaries at this point but at least it would give people an idea of what the plot actually was, for those periods when I was too drained to do anything on Livejournal but rant obscurely about the pigheadedness of the characters.
This would require the permission ofsesame_seed, absenceofmind and ayatsujik, though (and others?). While I would obviously edit out personal and/or off-topic discussion their commentary forms an organic and indispensable part of the whole. XD
The funny thing about being on the "supply" end of these semi- or poorly-translated series - and this is going to come across as infuriating, but ^^; - is that there are always bits and pieces no one mentions. Of course it's technically impossible to cover all one's bases unless one sits down and translates the entire canon with copious footnotes, but I mean things fandom would normally seize on, like breaks in characterization. Or bits of dialogue and information that are hard to understand/explain/rationalize, either because it's not one's first language or out of sheer WTFness, so... everyone who reads either misses or glosses over those aspects. If you are now thinking, "Given the general tenor of what you have seen fit to discuss and summarize on LJ about Mirage of Blaze, what could possibly have been so WTF that you decided it would be better not to mention it?"....Ahaha, well. XD;
There's also the fact that if no one else mentions it, you start to think you're imagining things. One of the things about JoJo that no one ever mentions is that people talk funny in it. Not everyone all of the time, but most of the characters a good deal of the time. Without having raws of the whole thing to hand I can't say for sure, but I don't think it's for the entire series either: AFAICT it started somewhere in part 4. The best description I can make of it is a sort of drawling, comic book emphasis. I've wondered at points if this is how Araki thinks young/unruly/thuggish characters should speak, but if you've tried to read Jump series in Japanese you know (probably to your chagrin) what "rude young male" Japanese speech parses as in manga bubbles; as with the English equivalent it's clipped and severely contracted, not... what Araki has down on paper.
Normal human being: Oh shit, what happened here? What are we supposed to do about this?
Typical young, rude manga male: Shit, what happened here!? The hell we gonna do 'bout this?
JoJo character: Shiiiit! What... happened here...? What... are we supposed to do nooooow?
Basically, if you try to speak JoJo dialogue back to yourself you find that no one would actually talk like that, but this is part and parcel with everything else about the series. XD;
Hmm, I think I can definitely stand to get out of here (must go buy Black Powder War XD). More on JoJo when I returnafter these messages.
Dear Mr. CNN, how to make yourself look like 1 x asshole. (link from
jokersama)Somewhat relatedly, Tania made me watch Team America: World Police last night.
Long review: bla bla perception of self versus perception of the Other bla bla Brechtian alienation bla bla projectile vomiting bla bla stylization of violence as commodification bla bla hypocrisy of Hollywood bla bla Kim Jong-Il plushie bla bla cakes.
Short review: ^^;;
Srsly I am one of those Asians Who Do Not Understand Sarcasm (tm), so that is my default reaction to all forms of satire. (I do understand sarcasm, but I had to learn how to speak it, as if it were a foreign language. This job has been good practice, because the default workplace humour setting here is "outrageous statement perpetrated in sober, conversational tones as part of a serious discussion.")
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Three SSBB submissions reviewed, beta'd and accepted: two for July, one for August. *is productive* Keep'em coming! :D
***
Recently I thought about sorting through my MSN chatlogs from last year and posting all those related to Mirage of Blaze. While they're not what one might call reference material-worthy I did recount large tracts of the plot in considerable detail - in fact I can remember days when I told Aki the story of the last five chapters or whatnot then turned around and regurgitated the whole thing to Chrissie a second time. XD I don't know that I'm likely to write up more respectable summaries at this point but at least it would give people an idea of what the plot actually was, for those periods when I was too drained to do anything on Livejournal but rant obscurely about the pigheadedness of the characters.
This would require the permission of
sesame_seed, absenceofmind and ayatsujik, though (and others?). While I would obviously edit out personal and/or off-topic discussion their commentary forms an organic and indispensable part of the whole. XDThe funny thing about being on the "supply" end of these semi- or poorly-translated series - and this is going to come across as infuriating, but ^^; - is that there are always bits and pieces no one mentions. Of course it's technically impossible to cover all one's bases unless one sits down and translates the entire canon with copious footnotes, but I mean things fandom would normally seize on, like breaks in characterization. Or bits of dialogue and information that are hard to understand/explain/rationalize, either because it's not one's first language or out of sheer WTFness, so... everyone who reads either misses or glosses over those aspects. If you are now thinking, "Given the general tenor of what you have seen fit to discuss and summarize on LJ about Mirage of Blaze, what could possibly have been so WTF that you decided it would be better not to mention it?"....Ahaha, well. XD;
There's also the fact that if no one else mentions it, you start to think you're imagining things. One of the things about JoJo that no one ever mentions is that people talk funny in it. Not everyone all of the time, but most of the characters a good deal of the time. Without having raws of the whole thing to hand I can't say for sure, but I don't think it's for the entire series either: AFAICT it started somewhere in part 4. The best description I can make of it is a sort of drawling, comic book emphasis. I've wondered at points if this is how Araki thinks young/unruly/thuggish characters should speak, but if you've tried to read Jump series in Japanese you know (probably to your chagrin) what "rude young male" Japanese speech parses as in manga bubbles; as with the English equivalent it's clipped and severely contracted, not... what Araki has down on paper.
Normal human being: Oh shit, what happened here? What are we supposed to do about this?
Typical young, rude manga male: Shit, what happened here!? The hell we gonna do 'bout this?
JoJo character: Shiiiit! What... happened here...? What... are we supposed to do nooooow?
Basically, if you try to speak JoJo dialogue back to yourself you find that no one would actually talk like that, but this is part and parcel with everything else about the series. XD;
Hmm, I think I can definitely stand to get out of here (must go buy Black Powder War XD). More on JoJo when I return
