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petronia4) Wfandom does not - to the best of my knowledge - ever use Cfandom/Jfandom's "all-[chara]" in notating personal pairing preference. Fangirls being fangirls this doesn't mean the phenomenon doesn't exist, just that (Sapir-Whorf being Sapir-Whorf) it's not codified and thus never talked about as such. I can't think of any specific instance where wank would have been avoided if the terminology were clearer, but discussions can be muddled and... okay, I just like dissecting fandom terminology. XD
Shipping all-X means one is likely to read any or most pairings as long as character X is part of it, character X being a special favorite. For instance,![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
one_if_by_land likes Fuji. She ships TezuFuji, but will read FujiRyo, Fujicest, Dream Pair or however it is you call FujiKiku again, and possibly other Fuji-centric pairings like FujiKiri (Bing to thread for further details). ninjatrauma also flies the TezuFuji shipper flag, but her focus is on Tezuka: as well as TezuFuji, she likes TezuAto and TezuOishi. I don't remember how she feels about TezuRyo offhand (Becky to thread for further details) but I know she is willing to read Tezuka x Sakuno. XD Rather than say Bing and Becky are both TezuFuji OTPers, then, a more encompassing notation is that Bing ships all-Fuji, Becky ships Tezuka-all (more on this later), and both give preference to TezuFuji.
This only moves beyond hair-splitting if one considers the original strong definition of 'OTP' (as opposed to the weak definition, that has general currency, of "a pairing I really really like"). By the strong definition, if TezuFuji were my OTP one would not predict me to be more likely than average to read Fujicest or TezuAto; in fact I would be less inclined to read those pairings than a story that did not include Tezuka or Fuji at all, because I would find it annoying to see Fuji with someone who was not Tezuka and vice-versa. There are, of course, people who exhibit this preference in PoT fandom - with regard to Tezuka and Fuji - because someone who ships TezuFuji only with each other could just as well be all-Atobe when it comes to Hyoutei (IOW there are enough characters in the darned series not to step on each other's toes >_>). Some people strong-OTP every pairing that they like, but I suspect they're actually in the minority. A vocal minority.
People who always strong-OTP can be said to privilege the pairing over the character. People who always all-chara can be said to privilege the character over the pairing. (Readers may want to argue this, especially if you replace with 'couple' and 'individual'.)
Other examples:fabulous_papaya vocally ships Urahara x Yoruichi but would not be averse to seeing Yoruichi tryst with most everyone of note in Soul Society (in fact she's writing it). I personally ship Brad x Schu but would read the phonebook from end to end if you convinced me Schuldig appeared therein, and if there's a pairing all the more piquancy. Since it's not a strong-OTP I don't mind seeing Crawford slashed with someone else (and I reckon Nat would say the same re: Urahara) but I'm not impelled to seek it out in my dull moments either; it's not what brightens my day.
From these redundant cases (and others, but I'm not going to sit here and reproduce the Inui!notebook page I keep on each and every one of you XD) one models other rules of thumb. Primo that one tends to ship one of the characters in one's favorite pairing as all-[chara], but not both; secundo that seme/uke assignment tends to remain consistent. I think this is built into the terminology in Cfandom (all-[chara] vs [chara]-all) but it's actually difficult to tell, because Cfandom has a stifling way of assigning seme x uke as a fanon collective, and most of the time in Cfandom it's the uke that's shipped all-[chara] to begin with. (80-90%? Aizen is an exception.) Which is sort of interesting in its own right. As for Jfandom it actually eschews the all-[chara] notation most of the time in favour of "[chara]-seme" or "[chara]-uke", i.e. "X is my favorite character and I will read anything with him in it as long as he is uke" - the position is seen as the deal maker/breaker along which battle lines are drawn, if a battle must be fought. XD This is disconcerting if - say - you are like me and strong-OTP Ban x Ginji/Ginji x Ban, but in Jfandom must perforce pick and chuse from all-Ginji-uke versus all-Ban-uke sites. Cfandom also uses these but to lesser extent. Of course I prefer the all-[chara] notation to the [chara]-[position] notation because it's much more descriptive of what does happen in Wfandom.
Um, please do not take the intent of the above as anything approaching prescriptive. I am just massively dorky not to mention procrastinating, and writing this sort of thing cheers me up. XD;;
One more for the road:
6) Chrissie: when you were talking about hairties falling off
Chrissie: for some reason i was thinking
Chrissie: that you were asking for examples to place beside byakuya XD;;;;
Sabina: Ohhh
Sabina: Well, actually I meant to discuss Byakuya too
Chrissie: TIRED
Sabina: but I forgot! :/
Sabina: I'll add that in my second entry.
Sabina: But Byakuya's macaronis getting chopped off his head carries a different semiotic value from Renji's hairtie falling off.
Sabina: Is my instinct, anyway.
Chrissie: XDXD
Chrissie: what?
Chrissie: chopped off?
Chrissie: see, i don't even remember that
Chrissie: just remember first panel of umm bed scene
Sabina: Well, Ichigo basically hits him over the head with his sword!
Chrissie: his hair down!
Sabina: And
Sabina: breaks them.
Chrissie: softens him so much
Chrissie: ooohhhh XD
Sabina: Otherwise HE WOULD STILL BE WEARING THEM
Sabina: EVEN IN BED
Chrissie: XDDDDDDDD
Chrissie: GO ICHIGO <3333333333
Sabina: I don't know if he has a spare set
Sabina: or if they were family heirlooms or something
Sabina: (in which case Ichigo has also done future generations of Kuchiki a massive favour)
Chrissie: ...i thought they were family heirlooms?
Sabina: doesn't say.
Chrissie: they even have a name!
Sabina: They're signs of nobility,
Chrissie: 牽星箍
Chrissie: ooohhh
Chrissie: *nodsnods*
Sabina: but it's not said whether it's one specific object or "nobles are allowed to wear ermine shoes on alternate Tuesdays"
Sabina: Byakuya hasn't reappeared in the series since we left Soul Society, and as others have pointed out he doesn't have them anymore in the ensuing colour spreads
Chrissie: *__________*
Sabina: So maybe they are gone for good!
Chrissie: oh, fantastic
Chrissie: *CROSSES FINGERS*
Sabina: For twenty-eight or however many generations no one has ever whacked the head of the Kuchiki household over the head with a blunt object
Sabina: but finally the day of liberation has come
Chrissie: <333333
Chrissie: i bet lots of them wanted to do it themselves :/
Chrissie: those things don't look easy on the scalp
Shipping all-X means one is likely to read any or most pairings as long as character X is part of it, character X being a special favorite. For instance,
one_if_by_land likes Fuji. She ships TezuFuji, but will read FujiRyo, Fujicest, Dream Pair or however it is you call FujiKiku again, and possibly other Fuji-centric pairings like FujiKiri (Bing to thread for further details). ninjatrauma also flies the TezuFuji shipper flag, but her focus is on Tezuka: as well as TezuFuji, she likes TezuAto and TezuOishi. I don't remember how she feels about TezuRyo offhand (Becky to thread for further details) but I know she is willing to read Tezuka x Sakuno. XD Rather than say Bing and Becky are both TezuFuji OTPers, then, a more encompassing notation is that Bing ships all-Fuji, Becky ships Tezuka-all (more on this later), and both give preference to TezuFuji.This only moves beyond hair-splitting if one considers the original strong definition of 'OTP' (as opposed to the weak definition, that has general currency, of "a pairing I really really like"). By the strong definition, if TezuFuji were my OTP one would not predict me to be more likely than average to read Fujicest or TezuAto; in fact I would be less inclined to read those pairings than a story that did not include Tezuka or Fuji at all, because I would find it annoying to see Fuji with someone who was not Tezuka and vice-versa. There are, of course, people who exhibit this preference in PoT fandom - with regard to Tezuka and Fuji - because someone who ships TezuFuji only with each other could just as well be all-Atobe when it comes to Hyoutei (IOW there are enough characters in the darned series not to step on each other's toes >_>). Some people strong-OTP every pairing that they like, but I suspect they're actually in the minority. A vocal minority.
People who always strong-OTP can be said to privilege the pairing over the character. People who always all-chara can be said to privilege the character over the pairing. (Readers may want to argue this, especially if you replace with 'couple' and 'individual'.)
Other examples:
fabulous_papaya vocally ships Urahara x Yoruichi but would not be averse to seeing Yoruichi tryst with most everyone of note in Soul Society (in fact she's writing it). I personally ship Brad x Schu but would read the phonebook from end to end if you convinced me Schuldig appeared therein, and if there's a pairing all the more piquancy. Since it's not a strong-OTP I don't mind seeing Crawford slashed with someone else (and I reckon Nat would say the same re: Urahara) but I'm not impelled to seek it out in my dull moments either; it's not what brightens my day. From these redundant cases (and others, but I'm not going to sit here and reproduce the Inui!notebook page I keep on each and every one of you XD) one models other rules of thumb. Primo that one tends to ship one of the characters in one's favorite pairing as all-[chara], but not both; secundo that seme/uke assignment tends to remain consistent. I think this is built into the terminology in Cfandom (all-[chara] vs [chara]-all) but it's actually difficult to tell, because Cfandom has a stifling way of assigning seme x uke as a fanon collective, and most of the time in Cfandom it's the uke that's shipped all-[chara] to begin with. (80-90%? Aizen is an exception.) Which is sort of interesting in its own right. As for Jfandom it actually eschews the all-[chara] notation most of the time in favour of "[chara]-seme" or "[chara]-uke", i.e. "X is my favorite character and I will read anything with him in it as long as he is uke" - the position is seen as the deal maker/breaker along which battle lines are drawn, if a battle must be fought. XD This is disconcerting if - say - you are like me and strong-OTP Ban x Ginji/Ginji x Ban, but in Jfandom must perforce pick and chuse from all-Ginji-uke versus all-Ban-uke sites. Cfandom also uses these but to lesser extent. Of course I prefer the all-[chara] notation to the [chara]-[position] notation because it's much more descriptive of what does happen in Wfandom.
Um, please do not take the intent of the above as anything approaching prescriptive. I am just massively dorky not to mention procrastinating, and writing this sort of thing cheers me up. XD;;
One more for the road:
6) Chrissie: when you were talking about hairties falling off
Chrissie: for some reason i was thinking
Chrissie: that you were asking for examples to place beside byakuya XD;;;;
Sabina: Ohhh
Sabina: Well, actually I meant to discuss Byakuya too
Chrissie: TIRED
Sabina: but I forgot! :/
Sabina: I'll add that in my second entry.
Sabina: But Byakuya's macaronis getting chopped off his head carries a different semiotic value from Renji's hairtie falling off.
Sabina: Is my instinct, anyway.
Chrissie: XDXD
Chrissie: what?
Chrissie: chopped off?
Chrissie: see, i don't even remember that
Chrissie: just remember first panel of umm bed scene
Sabina: Well, Ichigo basically hits him over the head with his sword!
Chrissie: his hair down!
Sabina: And
Sabina: breaks them.
Chrissie: softens him so much
Chrissie: ooohhhh XD
Sabina: Otherwise HE WOULD STILL BE WEARING THEM
Sabina: EVEN IN BED
Chrissie: XDDDDDDDD
Chrissie: GO ICHIGO <3333333333
Sabina: I don't know if he has a spare set
Sabina: or if they were family heirlooms or something
Sabina: (in which case Ichigo has also done future generations of Kuchiki a massive favour)
Chrissie: ...i thought they were family heirlooms?
Sabina: doesn't say.
Chrissie: they even have a name!
Sabina: They're signs of nobility,
Chrissie: 牽星箍
Chrissie: ooohhh
Chrissie: *nodsnods*
Sabina: but it's not said whether it's one specific object or "nobles are allowed to wear ermine shoes on alternate Tuesdays"
Sabina: Byakuya hasn't reappeared in the series since we left Soul Society, and as others have pointed out he doesn't have them anymore in the ensuing colour spreads
Chrissie: *__________*
Sabina: So maybe they are gone for good!
Chrissie: oh, fantastic
Chrissie: *CROSSES FINGERS*
Sabina: For twenty-eight or however many generations no one has ever whacked the head of the Kuchiki household over the head with a blunt object
Sabina: but finally the day of liberation has come
Chrissie: <333333
Chrissie: i bet lots of them wanted to do it themselves :/
Chrissie: those things don't look easy on the scalp
