Hey slash theorists
Oct. 4th, 2005 07:47 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
petroniaIf you didn't see my 1AM post - go read this and tell me what you think. XD;;
It's only funny for the first five minutes, and then you start thinking. I am basically gacking![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
z107m's class(?) reading but her more coherent and knowledgeable gloss is locked - usual reservations (shall we say) re Freud aside what I like about this is the fact that the m/m content is not given the spotlight so to speak but the power inequality is, which I've always thought was where "slashfen pop psych" goes wrong. (It's the nature of how the issue is framed - if you're going to analyse m/m fantasies you of course assume you're analysing m/m fantasies.) I said to Lisa that I thought accepted fandom wisdom was that youthful platonic male friendship fantasy was a sublimation of the err yaoi impulse and she pointed out more accurately that it's more inexperience than sublimation. XD And also doesn't address the question of "why", but then you hit the pathology vs. normalcy thing that makes it not-funny after the first five minutes.
Here's an introduction to a collection of discussions that gives an interesting thumbnail overview of current critical perspectives re Papa Freud's original essay, I think (a number of the papers suggest - I paraphrase flippantly - that psychoanalysing your own daughter is perhaps not the greatest way of "fixing" Oedipal issues, which, well).
Here is something I found through the same Google search. Has anyone seen this movie? o_O; I've never heard of it. (And now I'm spoilered for it thoroughly.) But yes, obviously applying "A Child Is Being Beaten" to homoerotic fantasy Nazis is the logical next step.
It's only funny for the first five minutes, and then you start thinking. I am basically gacking
z107m's class(?) reading but her more coherent and knowledgeable gloss is locked - usual reservations (shall we say) re Freud aside what I like about this is the fact that the m/m content is not given the spotlight so to speak but the power inequality is, which I've always thought was where "slashfen pop psych" goes wrong. (It's the nature of how the issue is framed - if you're going to analyse m/m fantasies you of course assume you're analysing m/m fantasies.) I said to Lisa that I thought accepted fandom wisdom was that youthful platonic male friendship fantasy was a sublimation of the err yaoi impulse and she pointed out more accurately that it's more inexperience than sublimation. XD And also doesn't address the question of "why", but then you hit the pathology vs. normalcy thing that makes it not-funny after the first five minutes.Here's an introduction to a collection of discussions that gives an interesting thumbnail overview of current critical perspectives re Papa Freud's original essay, I think (a number of the papers suggest - I paraphrase flippantly - that psychoanalysing your own daughter is perhaps not the greatest way of "fixing" Oedipal issues, which, well).
Here is something I found through the same Google search. Has anyone seen this movie? o_O; I've never heard of it. (And now I'm spoilered for it thoroughly.) But yes, obviously applying "A Child Is Being Beaten" to homoerotic fantasy Nazis is the logical next step.
