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(gacked from [livejournal.com profile] tongari)

eXpressive: 3/10
Practical: 4/10
Physical: 4/10
Giver: 1/10

You are a RSIT--Reserved Sentimental Intellectual Taker. This makes you a Archetypal Older Child.

You are a hard nut to crack. You have a wicked sense of humor. Despite your reserved nature, you are more comfortable (and successful) in the meeting and courting mode than you are in a long term relationship. You feel misunderstood, and usually you are.

When you're in a good mood, you're funny, fascinating and a sexy firecracker, but when you're in a bad mood you are moody, broody and impatient. In courtship mode, you don't have to let anyone see your moody side. If you had your way, even in a long term relationship you would have enough time apart to deal with your bad moods yourself; unfortunately, it rarely works that way.

You stifle *a lot* of anger and frustration -- from all areas of your life -- so when it comes out it comes out nasty. More than any other type, your conflicts tend to turn on one tiny thing -- the dishes, the laundry -- that's really a scapegoat for your larger dissatisfactions with your relationship. You're baffled that your partner just can't do the dishes -- your partner is baffled that it's such a big deal. The only way around it is to let the dishes go entirely and try to get at the real root of what's bothering you.

I'm making you sound like a bear, but the fact is that you're so warm and charming most of the time that it effectively offsets the times you're unhappy.

You will make a weirdly good parent.

Don't pair up with someone who'll make sexual demands of you. That's just not going to fly at all.

Of the 187813 people who have taken this quiz, 5.3 % are this type.

Okay okay. Here's one of the Insert Coin Retrieve Rant From Slot memes going around (I'm not going to do the original rant meme because you know me, blood from a rock):

1. Comment with any 'ship from a fandom that you know I like, or at least have some knowledge about.

2. I will ramble about aforementioned 'ship(s). This may be incoherent gushing or exclamations of disgust, depending on what it is.

3. Put this on your LJ, if you are so inclined.
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Date: 2005-02-02 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
1. Keisuke/Ryousuke from Initial D, in that order.

2. Ryuuku/Raito from Death Note. Seme/uke interchangeable.

3. Asami/Feilong from Viewfinder, both past and present.

<3


~ your secret admirer

secret admirer indeed

Date: 2005-02-02 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
Three! :0

KeiRyou and RyouKei are basically two separate schools of thought. I remember one of my flisters at some point ('twas a while back) saying that RyouKei kind of wigged her out, because Ryousuke has all the strategy cards and probably always will. Smarts aside (eheh), Keisuke doesn't lack in self-control when it comes to larger issues, going by canonical evidence, but Ryousuke's the cooler head. And Keisuke trusts and hero-worships his brother to such an extent that Ryousuke could very well take advantage of/use him - rather, it would be taking advantage even if that weren't the intent. (Ryousuke does use Keisuke, in the series. For that matter he uses Takumi. It's up to the reader to decide how benign all this is: after all their personal goals coincide, and both Kei and Takumi opted in, although they are oblivious to the subtle emotional manipulation. XD)

KeiRyou sidesteps the issue by taking it out of Ryousuke's sphere of control, so to speak. Some of the ficcers frame it as an "indulgence" on Ryou's part, giving his brother what he wants because he happens to want it and he is a yasashii oniisan like that (kind of like my putative vision of Fujicest I guess - my problem is that I can't see Yuuta wanting it XD;;). The rest frame it as... well, as taking it out of Ryousuke's sphere of control. There is something to seeing a character like that nonplussed. XD

Date: 2005-02-02 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
...Good lord, I was sure you meant L/Raito. o_o Well, at least I must still have a stock of eloquence somewhere, I think all my L-versus-Raito-in-whatever-sense words have been used up. But what to say...?

When you get down to it, what brings and binds Ryuuku and Raito together is boredom, desire to escape from. They're the salvation of each other in that sense. XD We learn that Shinigami are able to feel - heck, we learn that Shinigami are able to altruistically self-sacrifice - but Ryuuku so far seems unperiled by emotional pitfalls. He's laid-back, detached, amused. You get the feeling that none of it is terribly serious to him, but then again, why should it be? He kills people all the time anyway, that's what a Shinigami is. And for all Raito's blustering, pretty much the only thing he can do to Ryuuku is withhold apples.

Raito is much more interesting as a Death Note owner than most of the possible alternatives. I suspect Ryuuku is a bit more aware of this than he was at the beginning.

Other than that I can't square this into a "pairing" in my head. XD I enjoy reading their interaction in the manga though, because it's always funny to see Raito get no help whatsoever and be forced to muddle.

Date: 2005-02-02 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canis-m.livejournal.com
Gyousou/Taiki. :D Please.

Date: 2005-02-02 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sjdr.livejournal.com
I am amused we got the same result on that quiz.

Explain to me the Ashley/Syndey. For I do not understand it.

Date: 2005-02-02 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] absenceofmind.livejournal.com
naoexkage--JUST KIDDING. NO REALLY, DON'T ANSWER THAT ONE.

because SOMEone's got to, and really, why not me? *grin*

banxgin!! feel free to make it concise, such as "ginji is a big puppy around ban and only ban" and leave it at that. XD

Date: 2005-02-02 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canis-m.livejournal.com
(Not at all for your benefit, clearly, but to satisfy my burninating curiosity since I foisted the thing upon you and have yet to hear what you really think. If you have thoughts. ^^;)

Date: 2005-02-02 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
Asami/Feilong oh good grief. You probably shouldn't ask me, I'd have to sort through my thoughts which are in bits. But--

--It's romantic, that flashback story; almost extravagantly so given the characters involved. Much more so than one'd expect. Threw me for a loop, frankly. Unlike the Takaba-centric episodes, it made me wonder what Asami was thinking/feeling, which I thought was an odd reaction until I realised that this is uhhm because in the Takaba episodes you actually get to see Asami's thoughts, and in the Feilong story you don't, and this is due to the narrative issue of needing to conceal Asami's motivation in involving himself in the whole smuggling-whatever hullabaloo. ^^; So very likely it's not as complicated as I've made it out to be in my head. I mean, Asami is not terribly mysterious in the Takaba eps when you get down to it. There's this game he chooses to play with Takaba (not true of Takaba, I'd note), like all indulged vices it necessitates a certain outlay/risk but nothing he can't handle. By the second chapter of Viewfinder or so it's apparent that Asami choosing to play the game with Takaba makes Takaba one of his people, so that's what it becomes. Asami views the world in terms of territory anyway. The situation in the abstract has the potential of causing really big fuckups for him - witness Takaba telling Feilong of his whereabouts - but it's BeBoy manga and really the rules would have to change a lot for it to slip away from Asami. ^^;

None of that with Feilong, which is what threw me for a loop. I have a screaming natural resistance to the act of writing down the next clause, but I think Feilong is the closest Asami came to romantic love ever, and afterward he very calmly put it all in a box and buried the box in a hole in the ground and forgot about it. If I had to bet I'd bet it doesn't affect him now (how Feilong feels about it is unfortunately self-evident). On the other hand Asami does have a tendency to use his seme-fu as a shortcut to get shiz done, and... well, who knows. >_>

Date: 2005-02-02 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perseid.livejournal.com
Yes, pls expound on this couple, do, so I have valid reasons to give my friends-in-denial who do not understand why BanxGinji are the Ambiguously Gay Duo. =/

Date: 2005-02-02 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamiyarin.livejournal.com
Shouryuu/Rokuta. Because I'm curious. ^^;;;;

Date: 2005-02-02 09:06 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (bangin lean)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
d00d, you got friends in denial about the BanGin? Even my straight-as-an-arrow brother can't deny that one! (shake his head and cry, yes. deny, no)

Date: 2005-02-02 09:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-02-02 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sodzilla.livejournal.com
Hmmmm, if I'm allowed to ask, will complete the 12Kokki ruler/kirin triplet and ask for your thoughts on Youko/Keiki.

Date: 2005-02-02 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
Gyousou/Taiki! Oh, Gyousou. Oh, Taiki. For the longest time I conceived of 12K as something I would watch to take my mind off the neverending angstfest that is Mirage of Blaze; then I realised that this was a laughable misapprehension, and it's the fault of your fluff fic that I entertained it in the first place.

...But anyhow. XD I'm big on that kind of ruler-kirin "impression" thing in a general sense, I've talked about it. But true to form I can't come at this from the POV of sweet, sensitive, uncertain, never-hurt-a-fly Taiki. He's too far from the way I think/feel, let alone that kirin-ness itself is an attractive idea to me because mysterious and difficult to grok (what it must feel like to be so certain!? Can it ever be such a blessing, to have conscious choice stripped from one?). In a sense I take issue with the creator of the 12K universe, I don't know if I mean "God" or Ono Fuyumi or what: why does the kirin suffer shitsudou when it's the ruler at fault? For that matter, why does Taiki never get a break? It doesn't amuse me at all. I'm not a hurt/comfort type for the sake of it. I can take the suffering in something like Mirage because the characters are idiots and reprobates and deserved to be kicked hard. Taiki does not deserve kicking but the universe kicks him nonetheless.

I suspect I don't sound at all as if I'm discussing the pairing. But this is what it comes down to in my head, because I find Gyousou's POV relatively more congenial. What in the twelve kingdoms does Gyousou think he's doing, I'd like to know, and why hasn't he fixed the situation yet (possibly through liberal application of targetted violence).

Date: 2005-02-02 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
Here is the problem with Ashley/Sydney: it's logistically impossible, and way too much fan effort has been spent worrying at and bending the boundaries of the VS universe in order to make it possible, as opposed to just accepting Occam's Razor for what it is and putting all that energy to better use. Like, I dunno, constructing a plausible picture of the political situation in Valendia over the course of the past fifty years from the hints and fragments of information dropped. Or the religious/magic system. Or something. Of course I only say this because I'm obsessed with the worldbuilding of VS, not to the exclusion of everything else precisely, but... well.

Actually it also dovetails with the immense fan effort put into not having Sydney dead at the end. ^^; I mean, I don't like it any better than the next fangirl, but it's hard enough to understand what did happen without trying to patch or AU or explain it away.

All that being said, how is it difficult to understand where the impulse comes from? XD Mindgames! Righteous-but-insane versus manipulative-but-sincere! Fighting together briefly against a common enemy! Catch-me-if-you-can! ...And so forth. You do wonder what they said to each other during that missing week, although the question is perhaps better framed as "what would they have to say to each other". For the sake of worldbuilding, again. XD

Date: 2005-02-02 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mike/
No shirt x no pants! It's *easy*. :P

(as for the quiz, it is a source of continual surprise that you don't have a younger sibling. you'd be really good at it.)

Date: 2005-02-02 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
...Left a bit out. Evidently I expected you to read my mind (but then why did you ask?). To Gyousou, I think, Taiki represents the best the world has to offer. Taiki is why people like Gyousou do what they do. In one of the doujinshi Kristina sent me he says something like "the difference between an enlightened ruler and a despot is the size of the pile of bones on which his throne is built". Which sounded a lot better in the original semi-Chinese, but the point is I do think Gyousou is the type of person to see said question as one of degree rather than divide. What I'd extrapolate from this - taking the pairing itself as given - is that it would take the whole enforced separation bit to get him into the mental space where he would even consider touching Taiki, and that only because the space occupied by Taiki and what Taiki represents for him will have become a desperate void, and only if/when they return to physical proximity will he think about it in that way, and then he'd probably brood. Like, a lot.

Really I want sensei to keep writing because I want to see if I'm right. ^^;;;

Date: 2005-02-02 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyahnyah.livejournal.com
Shuichi/Ryuichi. <3

Date: 2005-02-02 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
(Naoe x Kagetora? As if I wouldn't laugh in the face of anyone who did seriously ask for that. XD;; I'd like to get other things accomplished with my day as well thx.)

Ban and Ginji are love, the end. See my lj memories. Okay, okay, I'll make an effort. XD But it should be enough, shouldn't it, to say that they are the salvation of each other? Never mind how often it's implied and/or outright stated in the series. Paul says it, for cripes' sake, and the man is more given to sentimental gesture than verbal effusion. Because Ban's there for him, Ginji gets to be Ginji. Because he has Ginji, Ban gets to remain Ban. They self-actualise through each other; they choose to put their initials together and identify themselves as one thing. Given which the question of whether or not they're sleeping together is a red herring bordering on irrelevancy. In my fic they do, because I'm dirty-minded (and also when you get down to it because I find it hard to picture one of them getting laid with someone else - what's the other one doing during that time, I start wondering, taking a stroll around the block? guzzling coffee at the Honky Tonk? >_> - and it would be kind of cruel to keep them from getting any whatsoever, they're so pretty and full of youthful energy), but maybe there's no eros component to it. I'm down with that, really. My point is that it would actually not make the tiniest whit of difference to the very-shounen-fighter canon, which behaves as if they might be sleeping together, it's just not terribly relevant to the plot to show it.

Date: 2005-02-02 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] one-if-by-land.livejournal.com
can/fanon Akira/Hikaru potential at the end of the manga. I want to know just how upset I can rightfully be. XD

Date: 2005-02-03 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
Shouryuu and Rokuta are great. XD Once again they could've strolled out of FSS, although Rokuta would find the implications horrifying. But I have a dorky weakness for the kickass-ruler-wandering-around-in-wastrel-disguise trope that comes from Chinese TV drama watched as a child or something. (For all I know Gyousou is also wandering around in disguise but it wouldn't be wastrel disguise, ya catch my drift.) As for uhh pairing, why ever not? They're perfect conversational foils, they can be deadly politico-serious and have antics, it's cute like shota only it's not because how old are they again?

...Which led me to think about how old they are again, and thence to the alarming conclusion that I don't remember a single historical detail regarding Shouryuu's Japanese lifetime. =_= At least he wasn't in Mirage of Blaze's period - I think.

Date: 2005-02-03 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com
1x2, 3x4: faits accomplis. XD No, I'm serious, it's been too long. Back then I shipped whomever fandom (and Tania) told me to ship. It's not an approach that would fly now, for a multitude of reasons. Also I read a lot of GW fic before I had access to the series at all, and likely most of it was terrible but I couldn't tell. The past is a different country.

I'll continue later but I have to run. ^^;

Date: 2005-02-03 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marici.livejournal.com
Tenjo Tenge, siblingcest of your choice.

Date: 2005-02-03 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamiyarin.livejournal.com
*raises hand* I have a similar weakness to that kind of ruler. Too much TVB wuxia when I was a kid. ^^;;;;

Oh, such perfect pairing... Shouryuu will tease Rokuta to DEATH, while Rokuta will finally run out of patience and just SMACK him. XD XD And suddenly, Shouryuu will turn serious and start talking about the war.

Lovely image. *__*

Well, Shouryuu was 500-something years old, right? Japan, the year 1400-something. What do you think? =P

Date: 2005-02-03 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canis-m.livejournal.com
This bit here is what I was after. Thanks. XD You kept saying how you relate to Gyousou not Taiki, needless to say I'm the reverse, so I'm always reduced to blind guessing at what's going on inside Gyousou, and I want people with reliable insight to explain. The tally now stands at 1 vote for major brooding (you) and 1 vote for minimal brooding (Tin). My own vote doesn't count as it's cast out of desire rather than conviction.

I want sensei to keep writing, too. >_<

(Wait wait wait you have Tai-centric doujinshi? ......Do I need to come rob your house? Or is it all in Chinese?)
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