Dorothy Dunnett pt.2
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(At some point I will update the current book list. Other than Dunnett, it now contains Ballard, Delany, Bujold, Novik, Iain M. Banks, and more dark elves - I forgot about that part. XD;)
Done with The Game of Kings, a few chapters into book 2. I was talking to
charmian - actually, quite a while back I remember telling Charmian that The Scarlet Pimpernel is a far more compelling experience when you're 11 and cannot guess the plot. Dunnett without the benefit of metagaming, on the other hand, strikes one as a recipe for disorder. XD; Primo, you have to know it's a freaking hexology, so you can afford to operate on the assumption (otherwise unsupported for great swathes of initial pagecount) that your protagonist has an actual motive for his actions. Secundo, it's one of those books where ghosts of authors both earlier and later crop up as plot-signposts at every turn, which is fine because there's quite enough plot to go around. It's sort of a picaresque novel scooshed into a spy novel (Le Carre) scooshed into a mystery novel (Christie) scooshed into a family drama scooshed into A YAWNING PIT OF HURT/COMFORT. Which I found pretty funny, because for h/c to work you need minimum theory of the emotional life of the character in question. XD; It's not a high bar and, at the point Dunnett kicks you off the cliff, you've crossed it - if your last name is Holmes or Poirot. I was in the act of craning around to pat myself on the back, proud of having figured out whoactuallydunnit - ahead of time, I foolishly thought - and suddenly Lymond was swooning prettily and getting shot with arrows. It was a change of pace. Mind you, he'd already had amnesia for like 30 seconds at that point.
Some notes:
1) The emotional life of the character... is, I have a horrible feeling, not tremendously different from T.E. Lawrence's. Like if this book were first person POV, which is structurally almost unimaginable; just much, much bitchier.
2) Not that you'd be reading this if you've not finished the book, but the mystery plays fair - if I'd known that I'd've brained harder. Mostly I sped along entertained by the trainwreck of Lymond's relationships with pretty much everyone ever. (Apart fromKristin Christian Stewart, who had an inappropriately Victorian finale.) It's weird because it's not that slashy, but I can't think of anything outside origslash where grown men start as much ridic *DRAMA* with each other as, say, Will Scott does with Lymond. At one point Lymond is like, son, I got 99 problems and you ain't even a... It dawned on me thereafter that he liked the kid. As a person. Much later Richard's all: out of sheer morbid curiosity, does Will Scott have any idea how old you are? And you're like, OH GOD. DON'T TELL ME. THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINS SO MUCH.
Dunnett, of course, then proceeds not to tell you. All the information flow in the book basically happens like this.
3) That ineffable mid-20th-century style of historical fiction that makes no attempt to restrict its characters to period vocabulary or indeed thought paradigms (Becket, The Lion in Winter...). Lymond has access to all of his period and beyond, so I'm not saying Dunnett didn't research - she must've researched extensively. I'm saying these days she probably would have pitched this directly to HBO or the BBC.
4) And then, Lymond spends a couple of years... bumming around the Culter estate? Getting Mariotta to teach him Irish, apparently. It seems highly awkward. XD
I put a hold on book 4, but investigation of the catalogue indicates that book 3 is the only Dunnett book the library doesn't have, orz.
Done with The Game of Kings, a few chapters into book 2. I was talking to
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Some notes:
1) The emotional life of the character... is, I have a horrible feeling, not tremendously different from T.E. Lawrence's. Like if this book were first person POV, which is structurally almost unimaginable; just much, much bitchier.
2) Not that you'd be reading this if you've not finished the book, but the mystery plays fair - if I'd known that I'd've brained harder. Mostly I sped along entertained by the trainwreck of Lymond's relationships with pretty much everyone ever. (Apart from
Dunnett, of course, then proceeds not to tell you. All the information flow in the book basically happens like this.
3) That ineffable mid-20th-century style of historical fiction that makes no attempt to restrict its characters to period vocabulary or indeed thought paradigms (Becket, The Lion in Winter...). Lymond has access to all of his period and beyond, so I'm not saying Dunnett didn't research - she must've researched extensively. I'm saying these days she probably would have pitched this directly to HBO or the BBC.
4) And then, Lymond spends a couple of years... bumming around the Culter estate? Getting Mariotta to teach him Irish, apparently. It seems highly awkward. XD
I put a hold on book 4, but investigation of the catalogue indicates that book 3 is the only Dunnett book the library doesn't have, orz.
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Date: 2011-04-24 02:40 am (UTC)I wasn't frustrated, per se, but I did feel like I had to constantly bring the entire toolkit to the table. XD; Lymond's emotions are implicit in his actions, what you can't expect is for other characters or the narrative to relay the analysis. eg. at the beginning of Queen's Play when they're about to get rammed by the other ship, and his first instinct is to unlock the galleys - which is such a huge step out of character that one registers it as such, even subconsciously. (I don't usually try to "figure out" mysteries, because I read faster than I cogitate. XD) It's like an Easter egg game where you keep unlocking secret levels of ALL ANGST.
I don't plan on skipping book 3, although I've stopped reading while I figure out if I genuinely want to order a used copy of book 3 only out of 6 online. >_> I have Consider Phlebas - conversely, out of these writers Banks is the only one I've never read at all.
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Date: 2011-04-25 04:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-25 04:36 pm (UTC)Well, after you bring your whole toolkit to PiF, maybe you can explain to me, slowly and at length, why certain characters do the things they do. With Dunnett I am never sure if I failed to get something because it just wasn't there or because I am too much of a numbskull to live. :D
Have you got to the relevations in QP yet? See it coming at all? And yes, I do agree that QP is the slowest Lymond book. I liked the first half because asglaksgjlkag;ag heaping amounts of hurt/comfort (seriously? did not know I dug that stuff until Dunnett introduced this Outrageously Handsome Do Everything hero character and now all I want is to see him suffer), but the latter half, not so much. CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO GET TO DISORDERLY KNIGHTS/PiF HOLY COW.
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Date: 2011-04-25 04:38 pm (UTC)Re: ahaha sorry for the comment spam. what could be more fitting for a monday morning?
Date: 2011-04-25 05:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-04-25 05:41 pm (UTC)The thing about Lymond is he encompasses or overlaps several character archetypes, and one of them is the Light/Lelouche type - which I love for the sheer joy and acute hilarity of watching them go off like a windup toy, and no sympathy whatsoever. XD XD XD The sympathy I have for Lymond comes from elsewhere aspects.